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Subject: Re: corrupt database
Author: Dan Bohlen
Date: 2008-10-16 18:52:34

Sorry it is a macro - I've sent in a mail directly to you.....


-----Original Message-----
From: xansys-bounces_at_xansys.org [mailto:xansys-bounces_at_xansys.org] On
Behalf Of Ted Janzen
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:09 PM
To: ANSYS User Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Xansys] corrupt database

Dan,

I typed in ANFWRIT, and the output window shows 'ANFWRIT is not a
recognized Prep7 command, abbreviation, or macro. This command will be
ignored'

Is this a macro that I may not have installed?

thanks, Ted Janzen
Janzen Engineering
Winnipeg, MB

ph: 204-284-5817





Bohlen, Dan (GE Infra, Aviation, US) wrote:
> Ted,
>
> Oh, you mentioned using anf format so I figured you knew about that
> undocumented command.
>
> Just type ANFWRIT and Ansys will dump out a .anf file. Clear the db
> and read back it back in and see it if filters out some of the
garbage.
>
> I feel your pain. I have struggled through models with flaky db
before.
> Sometimes I dump it and start from scratch too :-(.
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xansys-bounces_at_xansys.org [mailto:xansys-bounces_at_xansys.org] On
> Behalf Of Ted Janzen
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 4:46 PM
> To: ANSYS User Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Xansys] corrupt database
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> I'm not familiar with the ANFWRIT command, and it doesn't show up in
> my Ansys help, although it's been a long day of debugging the model,
> so I may have missed it.
>
> Ted Janzen
> Janzen Engineering
> Winnipeg, MB
>
> ph: 204-284-5817
>
>
>
>
>
> Bohlen, Dan (GE Infra, Aviation, US) wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xansys-bounces_at_xansys.org [mailto:xansys-bounces_at_xansys.org] On

>> Behalf Of Bohlen, Dan (GE Infra, Aviation, US)
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 4:33 PM
>> To: ANSYS User Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Xansys] corrupt database
>>
>>
>> Yeah, IGES import is NOT the most reliable.
>>
>> Have you tried to ANFWRIT and read in the combined geometry to
>> exorcise the demons?
>>
>> Just brain drizzling here: read it into UG or something, clean it
>> up,
>>
>
>
>> and bring it back into Ansys. Or do the same in WORKBENCH?
>>
>> Good Luck,
>>
>> Dan Bohlen
>> GE Aircraft Engines
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xansys-bounces_at_xansys.org [mailto:xansys-bounces_at_xansys.org] On

>> Behalf Of Ted Janzen
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 1:35 PM
>> To: ANSYS User Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Xansys] corrupt database
>>
>> The existing model is a V11 model. I forgot to mention earlier, that

>> the geometry in question was created by combining 2 existing FEA
>> models by importing a .cdb file. I used the 'anf' option, and let
>> Ansys automatically offset the input values, as well as trying to
>> manually offset the values prior to importing.
>>
>> The problem is that the error doesn't occur consistently. I worked on

>> the model for a few days until I got the first error message, but was

>> still able to create areas in other parts of the model. I've deleted

>> & recreated the lines which originally were causing the problem, only

>> to have the same error occur in another portion of the model.
>>
>>
>> Ted Janzen
>> Janzen Engineering
>> Winnipeg, MB
>>
>> ph: 204-284-5817
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Altidis, Paraschos C. wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Ted,
>>> I've seen this error everytime the IGES part of the CDB is
>>> (re)imported and corrupts the underlying geometry.
>>> One other - remote - possibility is the lines and the kps not being
>>> in
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>> the same plane and the resulting area to be warped.
>>>
>>> What ansys version was used to create the existing model ?? If it is

>>> an older version and you have it available try to resume in that
>>> version and create the same entities. Are you still getting the
>>> same
>>>
>>>
>> error ?
>>
>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: xansys-bounces_at_xansys.org [mailto:xansys-bounces_at_xansys.org]
>>> On
>>>
>
>
>>> Behalf Of Ted Janzen
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 11:23 AM
>>> To: ANSYS User Discussion List
>>> Subject: [Xansys] corrupt database
>>>
>>> Hi Ansys users.
>>>
>>> I'm receiving a strange error message for which I can't seem to find

>>> any info on in the Ansys help file. I'm trying to simply create a
>>> new
>>>
>
>
>>> area in an existing FEA model, and I get the error message 'lines
>>> cross each other'. I've tried to create the area via lines &
>>> keypoints. There are
>>> 4 lines which simply create a 'box'. I've tried to create the area
>>> with all 4 lines, or the 4 keypoints, but all result in the same
>>>
>>>
>> error.
>>
>>
>>> I tried to archive out the model, and re-import, but the error
>>>
>>>
>> persists.
>>
>>
>>> The Ansys ASD suspects it's a corrupt database. Is there any way to
>>> find the corrupt portion within the .cdb file, or any other way to
>>> diagnose the problem?
>>>
>>> I'm using Ansys version 11 sp1, on Windows x64.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> Ted Janzen
>>> Janzen Engineering
>>> Winnipeg, MB
>>>
>>>
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Ted Janzen, P.Eng.
Janzen Engineering

Tel: 204 284 5817
Fax: 204 453 5225
Email: tjanzen_at_mts.net

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