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Subject: Re: [STRUC] Bonded contacts
Author: Christiane Caouette
Date: 2008-05-04 21:17:37

Hello Odd,

What I seek is not in TFM, or I wouldn't be asking the help of the
Xansys list. I know all about stiffness and how to adjust it; my
application is a little more complicated than the average mechanical
contact, however. It's a bone-implant interface, and there will be
relative movement between the surfaces, that's how I know if the implant
will osseointegrate or not. Assuming it does, I was looking at the
possibility of using bonded contact with cohesive zone material to
simulate loosening of the implant. The big problem with that technique
is that I do not know what kind of mathematics trick Ansys uses in
bonded contacts. I'm thinking it's probably a constraint equation
between the contact points, but I need to be sure before I definitely
write them off as a solution to my problem.

Thanks for trying, though...
> Hi there. Its all given in TFM3.8 Real Constants. Contact tech is just
> springs in normal,tangent and opening.
> Its very hard to control and you must monitor all 3 directions and
> adjust stiffness to whatever is
> acceptable to you. Ideally there should be no relative movements in
> the 3 directions, but for a deformable
> contact this may be hard/impossible to achieve .Contact tech is
> generally also an error source in results if the
> mesh is coarse and not identical at both faces.
>
> I would advice you to run small test models to verify the contact
> behaviour and stiffness tweaking until you
> become familiar with what to do / (or not to do :)
>
> Brgds O.E.Lindoe, ImencoAS
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christiane Caouette"
>
> To:
> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 9:02 PM
> Subject: [Xansys] [STRUC] Bonded contacts
>
>
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>> This is my first post; I hope I have done everything properly...
>> My question is about bonded contacts: I have looked everywhere I could
>> think of (ansys help, google, library...), but I haven't been able to
>> find the mathematical description of these elements, only that of
>> standard contact elements. So what does Ansys do to keep those bonded
>> elements from opening? Is it a restriction on allowed nodal
>> displacement? Like, they can't move out of the pinball region, or
>> can't
>> move relative to one another (target nodes vs contact nodes)?
>> If anyone has any suggestions (or references I could check) to shed
>> some light on this... thanks!
>> Christiane Caouette, jr eng.
>> PhD Student at Ecole de Technologie Superieure
>>
>>
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