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Subject: Re: [STRUC] Bonded contacts
Author: Christiane Caouette
Date: 2008-05-03 21:46:56

Hello Bram,

I've been through it already; it doesn't say how exactly the contacts
remain bonded, regardless of the algorithm I choose. I'll give you a
little more context, you'll see my real problem. I'll be modeling hip
implants in my thesis, which means there will be bone-implant or
bone-cement interfaces. These interfaces change with time
(osseointegration occurs, securing the implant, or ostelysis, which
loosens it), and these changes can be approximated with damage
mechanics: hence, bonded contacts with a cohesive zone material. The
only problem with that technique is that interface micromotions (contact
sliding distance) are a key parameter in determining what happens at the
interface, so I can't afford to use bonded contacts as a black box, I
need to know what they do.

The other contact parameters I will have to use are: penalty or
Augmented Lagrangian (they give the same results on my models) with
user-defined stiffness. MPCs are out of the question, I need friction in
there.

So, the trouble is not how to use them so much as how do I justify using
them if I don't know what they do...

Thanks for trying!
Christiane

PhD Student at Ecole de Technologie Superieure




Weisman, Bram wrote:
> I don't know how much help this will be, but I would recommend you read
> the on-line documentation "Contact Technology Guide" in it's entirety.
> Along the way you should find some clues. Be aware that there are
> several algorithms to choose from when doing bonded contact, some are
> stiffness and/or penalty function based, and others are constraint
> equation based (MPC).
>
> Best regards,
>
> Bram Weisman, P.E.
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> Behalf Of Christiane Caouette
> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 2:02 PM
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> Subject: [Xansys] [STRUC] Bonded contacts
>
>
> Hello everyone,
> This is my first post; I hope I have done everything properly...
> My question is about bonded contacts: I have looked everywhere I
> could
> think of (ansys help, google, library...), but I haven't been able to
> find the mathematical description of these elements, only that of
> standard contact elements. So what does Ansys do to keep those bonded
> elements from opening? Is it a restriction on allowed nodal
> displacement? Like, they can't move out of the pinball region, or
> can't
> move relative to one another (target nodes vs contact nodes)?
> If anyone has any suggestions (or references I could check) to shed
> some light on this... thanks!
> Christiane Caouette, jr eng.
> PhD Student at Ecole de Technologie Superieure
>
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