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Subject: Re: [OT] Why there are so few New Grads who want to
Author: cylinzv_at_tsmc.com
Date: 2008-04-18 10:45:10

I personally have had similar observation with Eric for the country I am
currently residing. Here the electronics industry is the most dominant,
where it involves fast high-volume and sound-quality manufacturing. To make
profit or even just survive in this kind of environment, strict control of
cost reduction as well as continuing improvement in process engineering are
the key issues. Simulation is NOT. Engineering professionals in such
manufacturing-intensive environment may be easier to get the ladder up if
they have performance in terms of cost reduction or process improvement,
rather than having advanced analytical skills even if they are experienced.

Some large companies here in Taiwan may have one small team dedicating to
simulation work. Some others have one or two employees doing part-time
modeling and simulation. Quite many smaller companies, and most government
organizations, simply outsource the simulation work to either academia or
limited number of software vendors. As you can imagine, possible
opportunities for modeling may exist in some large corporations and several
software distributors. It's hard to choose simulation as the career goal in
those kind of companies. On the other hand, those may be niche
opportunities for people with specialties under certain circumstances. The
only simulation career path I can think of is going to academia, where I
have seen quite many researchers (mostly university professors)
successfully focused by using simulation as the major research approach.
The other approach, for someone who like to do simulation, may be going to
form a company of his/her own that dedicating to consulting service in
terms of simulation.

My understanding is that a company designs and develops certain products
may be in great need of modeling and simulation. I thought many companies
in G-7 countries do apply such practice. A similar practice is observed in
Taiwan's IC design industry, which is growing fast. Many IC design
engineers do electrical simulations very intensively. Almost every EE new
graduate here wants to enter the IC design industry, and many of them are
not resistive to do simulation work or even take that as one of their
career goals.

My conclusion (for Taiwan) is, quite few (ME and related majors) new grads
want to do mechanical FEA simulation, but many (EE and related) new grads
take electrical simulation as required for their career development.


Best regards,

Chung-yi 'Charles' Lin

Principal Engineer
Modeling & Reliability Program (MDRP)
Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company, Ltd.
6 Creation Rd. 2, Hsinchu Science-Based Industrial Park
Hsinchu, Taiwan 30077




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Dear all,
...
Many of our customers are complainging that they can not find enough
quality new graduates who want to focus on simulation for their career,
especially at the graduat level and especially when you require US
Citizens.
Questions to the group:
1: Do you see the same thing in your industry/country?
2: If so, why do you think?
My oppinion for the US: (warning: old man "not like it used to be" rant
comming)
There just is not the attraction or glory of being an engineer. After WWII
it was a way for anyone who was smart to move up the economic structure.
Now, smart students don't want to become engineers, they want to go into
finance and/or business.
Or maybe I'm generalizing.
Eric

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Eric Miller - PADT, Inc.

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