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Subject: Re: poll results
Author: Roberto Muccini
Date: 1998-12-15 11:04:00

Heinrich Acker wrote:

> From: Heinrich Acker

> Dear xansys,

> in general, it looks as if individualism won the poll against formalization.
> Although most of the people who voted were positive for both keywords and
> the poll run by a list member, very few peple actually sent me a vote.

> In detail:

> 1. Introduction of keywords?
> yes: 13 no:1

> 2. Polls run by a list member?
> yes: 11 no:1

> On Monday, Dec 7, 385 people were subscribed to the old list.

> A summary of comments:

> An argument against keywords was "Professional development and continuuing
> education requires effort. Period."
> It was noted that there must be some common place where the keyword list
> is stored for look-up.
> It was suggested that contact problems should be in the keyword list.
> A discussion of the pros and cons of more than one keyword was sent to the
> list as well. It was noted that more than one keyword makes sense, but for
> the mail tools which sort your mail, only one keywords is better.
> One was concerned that no development of discussion could happen in a vote
> that is not 'public', and that someone might not tell the truth about the
> results, in order to support his own - minority - opinion.

> Conclusion:

> Although some of the more prominent problem-solvers active on this list,
> e.g. John Swanson, voted for keywords either to my address or to the list,
> there are too few votes to declare it a standard. So the only thing I can
> say is: Do as you like, and perhaps 350 people are laughing because they
> think that the poll was a stupid idea anyway.

> However, most of the people who told their opinion were positive to the idea,
> so feel encouraged to give keywords a try and see how things develop. Same
> for the poll issue.

> Here is the list of keywords again:

> MODEL - selecting, creating, deleting etc. entities,
> coordinate systems, meshing, element properties
> CAD - interface to other programs
> APDL - pure language issues like strange behaviour,
> possible bugs, parameter or macro problems

> THEO - theory, proper problem representation in ANSYS

> SYS - OS and licence trouble, file and memory issues

> LOAD - applying loads, load steps, constraints, symmetry
> SOLV - solver issues

> GRAPH - graphics issues, incl. animation, annotation etc.
> POST - postprocessing other than GRAPH

> STRUC - structural analysis
> THERM - thermal analysis
> FLO - FLOTRAN
> EMAG - electromagnetic field analysis

> ADV - coupled field, optimization, adaptive meshing,
> submodeling and -structuring etc.

> CONT - contact trouble

> For the beginning, I would like to see one keyword or no keyword, because
> - mail filtering is easier to apply then;
> - its kompatible to problems that don't fit;
> - its kompatible to members who don't like keywords;
> - its kompatible to members who don't know the right category;
> - a forgotten keyword doesn't matter.

> It would be more difficult to have no, one or more keywords to my mind.

> Regards and thanks for voting,

Dear Heinrich,

First of all I apologize I'm part of the individualists, neverheless I
would like to spend my cent about this. I think that every effort in
organizing is really appreciable but you can't force different users
(researcers, simple users, advanced users, developers, and so on) to use
this approach.
I think that the variety of people visiting this list is one of its more
valuable carachteristics but someone access the lists a lot of time in
one day, oterhs only now and then.

What I would like to say is that I don't find strange that people like
the "blessed" John Swanson (I remember that he already sent a message
inviting us to write clearer subjects) encouraged your initiative but
also that in my rigid rules are not suited for this list.

At last I would like to thank you for clarifying subjcts. I'll use them
hereinafter and I'll post you if I find interesting new ones.

Regards

Roberto Muccini

> Heinrich Acker

> Institut f. Halbleitertechnik (Solid-State Electronics Laboratory)
> TU Darmstadt (Darmstadt University of Technology)
> Schlossgartenstr. 8
> D-64289 Darmstadt

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Muccini Roberto
Laboratorio di Tecnologia dei Materiali tel. +39-(0)51-6366864550
Istituti Ortopedici Rizzoli fax. +39-(0)51-6366863
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